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start date: Tue, 14 Aug 2007 17:31:00 -0700,    posted on: microsoft.public.dotnet.framework.aspnet        back       

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  1    BobLaughland
          2    Laurent Bugnion, MVP
          3    BobLaughland


Visual Studio and IIS   
Hi All,

I am using visual studio 2003 on a website I am developing on. I have
it running inside a VM, and use IIS to host the website when I am
viewing and debugging it.

The problem is that when I recompile the project and then load up the
site again with a browser it takes ages to load the start page
(probably about 3 or 4 minutes).

Anyway this really slows down development as you can understand.

Any suggestions?

I am using Virtual PC, and the VM has 512Mb memory allocated to it.
Date:Tue, 14 Aug 2007 17:31:00 -0700   Author:  

Re: Visual Studio and IIS   
Hi,

BobLaughland wrote:

> Hi All,
> 
> I am using visual studio 2003 on a website I am developing on. I have
> it running inside a VM, and use IIS to host the website when I am
> viewing and debugging it.
> 
> The problem is that when I recompile the project and then load up the
> site again with a browser it takes ages to load the start page
> (probably about 3 or 4 minutes).
> 
> Anyway this really slows down development as you can understand.
> 
> Any suggestions?
> 
> I am using Virtual PC, and the VM has 512Mb memory allocated to it.


512MB sounds a little on the "small" side to me. However I am not a 
Virtual PC expert. In my place, we use VMWare with good results, but it 
costs.

That there is a longer delay when you recompile the project is normal, 
because .NET doesn't create binaries, but IL (intermediate language), 
which will be JIT-ed (Compiled Just-In-Time) when the first call occurs. 
  But 3 to 4 minutes sounds quite bad. How much do you get when you run 
it on a non-virtual installation?

Do you have a way to use ASP.NET 2.0 instead of 1.1? That would imply 
using VS2005 (or VS2008, still in Beta but really in a good shape) 
instead of VS2003.

Finally, the "good old times" anecdotes: When I started developing (in 
1996), I was working on embedded systems and writing code in C, and 
there was no differential compilation, so the whole system had to build 
every time. A compilation took 8 minutes. During these 8 minutes, it was 
pretty much impossible to do anything else on the PC. Let me tell you, I 
was compiling much less often than now :-)

Then I got a new computer and the compilation time dropped to 3 minutes. 
It did feel really great :-)

Greetings,
Laurent
-- 
Laurent Bugnion [MVP ASP.NET]
Software engineering, Blog: http://www.galasoft.ch
PhotoAlbum: http://www.galasoft.ch/pictures
Support children in Calcutta: http://www.calcutta-espoir.ch
Date:Wed, 15 Aug 2007 09:32:22 +0200   Author:  

Re: Visual Studio and IIS   
On Aug 15, 7:32 pm, "Laurent Bugnion, MVP" 
wrote:

> Hi,
>
>
>
>
>
> BobLaughland wrote:
> > Hi All,
>
> > I am using visual studio 2003 on a website I am developing on. I have
> > it running inside a VM, and use IIS to host the website when I am
> > viewing and debugging it.
>
> > The problem is that when I recompile the project and then load up the
> > site again with a browser it takes ages to load the start page
> > (probably about 3 or 4 minutes).
>
> > Anyway this really slows down development as you can understand.
>
> > Any suggestions?
>
> > I am using Virtual PC, and the VM has 512Mb memory allocated to it.
>
> 512MB sounds a little on the "small" side to me. However I am not a
> Virtual PC expert. In my place, we use VMWare with good results, but it
> costs.
>
> That there is a longer delay when you recompile the project is normal,
> because .NET doesn't create binaries, but IL (intermediate language),
> which will be JIT-ed (Compiled Just-In-Time) when the first call occurs.
>   But 3 to 4 minutes sounds quite bad. How much do you get when you run
> it on a non-virtual installation?
>
> Do you have a way to use ASP.NET 2.0 instead of 1.1? That would imply
> using VS2005 (or VS2008, still in Beta but really in a good shape)
> instead of VS2003.
>
> Finally, the "good old times" anecdotes: When I started developing (in
> 1996), I was working on embedded systems and writing code in C, and
> there was no differential compilation, so the whole system had to build
> every time. A compilation took 8 minutes. During these 8 minutes, it was
> pretty much impossible to do anything else on the PC. Let me tell you, I
> was compiling much less often than now :-)
>
> Then I got a new computer and the compilation time dropped to 3 minutes.
> It did feel really great :-)
>
> Greetings,
> Laurent
> --
> Laurent Bugnion [MVP ASP.NET]
> Software engineering, Blog:http://www.galasoft.ch
> PhotoAlbum:http://www.galasoft.ch/pictures
> Support children in Calcutta:http://www.calcutta-espoir.ch- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -


Any other ideas on this? I have run this type of thing on normal
computers (not running in a virtual environment), and this problem
doesn't normally occur, or if so it is just a short delay.

Unfortunately I cannot use much more than 512 memory in the VM as my
host machine only has 1GB.

Aha, is there a conversion tool to take a virtual PC image into
VMWare? I may give it a go for comparison, I don't really care if it
makes no difference, but it could be an interesting comparison.
Date:Mon, 20 Aug 2007 19:20:36 -0700   Author:  

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