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start date: Tue, 14 Aug 2007 11:48:09 +0200,    posted on: microsoft.public.dotnet.framework.compactframework        back       

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  1    Amirallia
          2    Marc Ambrosius
                 3    Paul G. Tobey [eMVP] p space tobey no spam AT no instrument no spam DOT com
                 4    Amirallia
                 5    Marc Ambrosius
                 6    Marc Ambrosius
                 7    Paul G. Tobey [eMVP] p space tobey no spam AT no instrument no spam DOT com


Windows CE .NET 5.0   
Hi,

Is it possible to develop application with VS.Net 2003 on Windows CE 
..NET 5.0 device ?

I test with Windows CE .NET 4.20 and it's ok, but with .net 5.0 I have 
no idea!

Thanks for your answer
Date:Tue, 14 Aug 2007 11:48:09 +0200   Author:  

Re: Windows CE .NET 5.0   
Amirallia wrote:

> Is it possible to develop application with VS.Net 2003 on Windows CE
> .NET 5.0 device ?
>
> I test with Windows CE .NET 4.20 and it's ok, but with .net 5.0 I have
> no idea!

With Visual Studio .NET 2003 you can only develop applications for .NET 
Compact Framework 1.0. There is no .NET CF 1.0 running on Windows CE 5.0. 
But you can install .NET CF 2.0 on your Windows CE 5.0 device and run your 
applications against it. Normally this should work without problems, but you 
won't be able to connect Visual Studio .NET 2003 to your device for 
debugging purposes. To do this you will need Visual Studio 2005 and convert 
yout project to .NET CF 2.0 (makes some things easier anyway).

Marc
Date:Tue, 14 Aug 2007 12:08:55 +0200   Author:  

Re: Windows CE .NET 5.0   
Not quite true.  Although I would guess that most vendors build .NET CF 2.0 
into CE5 devices, both versions appear in the catalog and either could be 
built in.  No matter what version of .NET CF is on the device, it will 
*always* run .NET CF 1.0 programs; 2.0 will try to act like 1.0, in cases 
where your program is 1.0.

Paul T.

"Marc Ambrosius"  wrote in message 
news:uomBhsl3HHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> Amirallia wrote:
>> Is it possible to develop application with VS.Net 2003 on Windows CE
>> .NET 5.0 device ?
>>
>> I test with Windows CE .NET 4.20 and it's ok, but with .net 5.0 I have
>> no idea!
> With Visual Studio .NET 2003 you can only develop applications for .NET 
> Compact Framework 1.0. There is no .NET CF 1.0 running on Windows CE 5.0. 
> But you can install .NET CF 2.0 on your Windows CE 5.0 device and run your 
> applications against it. Normally this should work without problems, but 
> you won't be able to connect Visual Studio .NET 2003 to your device for 
> debugging purposes. To do this you will need Visual Studio 2005 and 
> convert yout project to .NET CF 2.0 (makes some things easier anyway).
>
> Marc
> 
Date:Tue, 14 Aug 2007 08:11:45 -0700   Author:  

Re: Windows CE .NET 5.0   
Thanks for your answer!

So if I update to Visual Studio .NET 2005, can I debug my applications 
developped with Visual Studio .NET 2003 ?

If it's not possible, can I install VS .Net 2003 and 2005 on the same 
computer ?

Thanks in advance!


Marc Ambrosius a exprim avec prcision :

> Amirallia wrote:
>> Is it possible to develop application with VS.Net 2003 on Windows CE
>> .NET 5.0 device ?
>>
>> I test with Windows CE .NET 4.20 and it's ok, but with .net 5.0 I have
>> no idea!
> With Visual Studio .NET 2003 you can only develop applications for .NET 
> Compact Framework 1.0. There is no .NET CF 1.0 running on Windows CE 5.0. But 
> you can install .NET CF 2.0 on your Windows CE 5.0 device and run your 
> applications against it. Normally this should work without problems, but you 
> won't be able to connect Visual Studio .NET 2003 to your device for debugging 
> purposes. To do this you will need Visual Studio 2005 and convert yout 
> project to .NET CF 2.0 (makes some things easier anyway).
>
> Marc
Date:Wed, 15 Aug 2007 09:06:15 +0200   Author:  

Re: Windows CE .NET 5.0   
Amirallia wrote:

> So if I update to Visual Studio .NET 2005, can I debug my applications
> developped with Visual Studio .NET 2003 ?

Yes, but you have to upgrade your project to Visual Studio 2005 as well (and 
there is no automatic way to go back later).


> If it's not possible, can I install VS .Net 2003 and 2005 on the same
> computer ?

Yes, they can run side-by-side.

Marc
Date:Wed, 15 Aug 2007 12:08:22 +0200   Author:  

Re: Windows CE .NET 5.0   
Paul G. Tobey [eMVP] wrote:

> Not quite true.  Although I would guess that most vendors build .NET
> CF 2.0 into CE5 devices, both versions appear in the catalog and
> either could be built in.  No matter what version of .NET CF is on
> the device, it will *always* run .NET CF 1.0 programs; 2.0 will try
> to act like 1.0, in cases where your program is 1.0.

This is interesting as
- there is no CAB file to install .NET CF 1.0 on a Windows CE 5.0 device.
- there is no project type for a .NET CF 1.0 application in Visual Studio 
2005 (for Pocket PC 2003 there are project types for both frameworks).

Marc
Date:Wed, 15 Aug 2007 12:10:56 +0200   Author:  

Re: Windows CE .NET 5.0   
Yes, that's true, there's no CAB specifically for CE5, although the install 
for .NET CF 1.0SP3 (3?  I think it's 3), should work for CE5 or CE4.2, etc. 
At the time that CE5 shipped to us OEMs, .NET CF 1.0 was all there was; 2.0 
did not yet exist, so it did work (VS2005 didn't exist yet, either). 
Microsoft seems to have decided that you don't need to target .NET CF 1.0 
from VS2005 (why, I'm not clear, but they are a bit blind with respect to 
the fact that some of these devices are not upgraded or replaced on a yearly 
basis, like a phone might be).  You can either use VS.NET2003 to do your 
..NET CF 1.0 programs, or you can use one of the PPC2003 project types as 
your starting point in VS2005 which are available in 1.0 configurations.

Paul T.

"Marc Ambrosius"  wrote in message 
news:%23jNMTSy3HHA.1900@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> Paul G. Tobey [eMVP] wrote:
>> Not quite true.  Although I would guess that most vendors build .NET
>> CF 2.0 into CE5 devices, both versions appear in the catalog and
>> either could be built in.  No matter what version of .NET CF is on
>> the device, it will *always* run .NET CF 1.0 programs; 2.0 will try
>> to act like 1.0, in cases where your program is 1.0.
> This is interesting as
> - there is no CAB file to install .NET CF 1.0 on a Windows CE 5.0 device.
> - there is no project type for a .NET CF 1.0 application in Visual Studio 
> 2005 (for Pocket PC 2003 there are project types for both frameworks).
>
> Marc
> 
Date:Wed, 15 Aug 2007 08:14:08 -0700   Author:  

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